“It really just goes back to being in tune with people. I think that as a culture we’ve become very self-absorbed and we’ve stop seeing people. So we just need to have a heart and have eyes that see people. And it’s almost like a habit that we need to re-exercise and practice again to just start seeing people where they are.” —Brittney Moses
It’s complicated, but not. It’s weighty, but it doesn’t have to be. The topic of mental health comes with so many stigmas. It can be hard and uncomfortable to talk about, seemingly unrelatable for many, and certainly layered with many misunderstood complexities. Yet today’s episode leaves the listener re-thinking how a simple concept such as, “meet people where they are,” can be the perfect way to bridge the gap of communication and connection.
Brittney Moses, today’s guest, is a Clinical Psychologist Major, a certified Mental Health First Aid, and passionate about seeing this generation live with purpose through the intersecting of genuine faith and mental wellness for wholesome living.
Brittney helps us explores the different signs of depression, the many faces of mental unwellness, how seeing people in our culture of busyness is a habit worth exercising, and that empathy, not sympathy, is what speaks the loudest to those struggling, “I’m with you.”
“One of the key things that we talk about is listening for where a person is at. We don’t assume where a person is at, we don’t tell a person where they are, we ask them, and we listen, and we go from there.” —Brittney Moses
- A lot of times with depression, not only is there a deep form of loss, but it can be a sign that a lot of the elements of your life are out of balance. And sometimes when you can work on those areas of your life, one at a time, whether it’s social relationships, fitness and health, psychologically with a therapist or a group, the symptoms can begin to relieve.
- Everybody is in different places, so the first place you have to start is with asking them where they’re at and just listening to them.
- One of the big tools is empathy. Not sympathy, but empathy. I tell people there’s a difference because, when it’s sympathy it’s like, “Oh I’m sorry for you.” It’s kinda like, “Poor you. You poor thing,” and people make them projects. You can feel that and that feels disingenuous. But empathy, where it says, “You know what? I don’t completely understand what you’re going through because I haven’t been there, but it must be tough and I can only imagine, and I am here for you, I am here with you.” Empathy says I’m with you.”
- Sometimes we just want to fix; we feel this pressure to fix someone’s problem or have an answer when they come to us with it [depression]. That’s not really what people need, most of the time. Most of the time, especially in cases where there’s suicidal rumination, they just need the relief of confession because it’s the aloneness and the isolation that’s really fuelling that darkness.
- The Bible is such a psychological book. It really is. It tells us all about human behaviour and how God relates to each of us and how we should relate to each other. And you think about Jesus, and he came down and He met us where we are. He became human.
- This concept of meeting people where they are and saying, “Where are you?” and assessing that first, it’s a Biblical concept and it’s a helpful concept.
- Vulnerability begets vulnerability.
- There’s no certain face to it. A depressed person doesn’t necessarily look sad all the time or is down all the time. It’s also the person who is happy all the time.
Brittney Moses is passionate about seeing this generation live on purpose. The Los Angeles native is currently a Clinical Psychology Major whose mission exists around encouraging the intersectionality of genuine faith and mental wellness for wholesome living. Her favorite part of life is being called Mommy to her sweet son Austin. She is certified in Mental Health First Aid and leverages her social media platform to assist with helpful information on mental health for Christians.
Mentioned In This Episode:
- Adam and Eve in the garden: Genesis 3: The Fall
- Isaiah 53:3-5
- Brittney’s website
- Brittney’s app: The Faith & Mental Wellness App
- YouVersion devotion: The 7 Day Anxiety Detox
- Mental Health resources for Canadian listeners
- Daring Greatly by Brene Brown
- Stephen King quote: “We’re only as sick as our secrets.”
- The Upward Spiral : Using Neuroscience To Reverse The Course Of Depression – Alex Korb
Mental Health & Wellness Resources:
- Brittney’s mental help resources
- The Gottman Institute
- Positive Psychology Program — your one stop positive psychology resource
- Self-Compassion Website
- Faith-based resources for parents: Focus on the Family
- Suicide prevention crisis lines — Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention
- Kid’s Help Phone: for children and youth aged 5 to 20 — #1-800-668-6868 — to speak to a professional counsellor, 24 hours a day. It’s free, confidential, anonymous and available across Canada.